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Whats everyones perspective on anti-competitive practices in the private sector? (Case study: McDonalds ice cream machines being broken all the time due to anti-free market principles) (youtu.be)
posted 4 years ago by gunteh 4 years ago by gunteh +10 / -1
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– White_Phosphorus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What "anti free market" activities were even going on in this video? Makes no sense. Does McDonalds just really like paying Taylor more money than they should for ice cream machines for no particular reason? And I felt like I was having a stroke from 26:00 to the end when he just keeps repeating the same thing in a poor effort to make the viewer think he actually came to an impactful conclusion.

"It's because there's an old relationship between between two old companies that don't want things to change." Great detective work there, McDonalds is known for wasting money and never adopting new technology like digital ordering machines to replace employees. This narrative just makes no sense.

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– gunteh [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Here's what's happening: The franchise owners have to buy a certain product to open a McDonalds, which is prone to breaking. They cannot have the machine repaired by the best service tech available, they have to pay Taylor certified techs for it or the warranty is void. Instead of helping franchise owners find new private solutions to solve this monopoly, they send cease and desists to people who circumvent Taylors technology, as well as force franchise owners to keep to the current solution. McDonalds doesn't pay a penny for crappy Taylor machines, the franchise owners do. For some franchise owners, it's lost time and revenue, while Taylor and McDonalds profit off of red tape and buraucracy. The consumers pay down the road with lower satisfaction, while McDonalds Corporate isn't on the hook for any of it.

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– White_Phosphorus 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's how tightly controlled franchises work. They knew couldn't buy non corporate approved products when they bought a franchise and signed the agreement.

while Taylor and McDonalds profit off of red tape and buraucracy.

Please try to explain how McDonalds corporate profits from their franchises losing revenue and having to pay techs.

while McDonalds Corporate isn't on the hook for any of it.

You do realize that McDonalds corporate takes a percentage of a franchises sales?

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– gunteh [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because McDonalds has a quid pro quo with Taylor. Theres a contract document that allows Taylor to to profit and scratch corporates back, which replaces lost sales revenue from ice cream sales, which is marginal in the McDonalds franchise. The issue is the owners are on the hook for repair costs, that dont factor into McDonalds sales commission, so from corporates eyes they see it as marginal at best. However, for the franchise owner, the costs have to be weighed with revenue, and therefore many stores have refused to clean or maintain their ice cream machines due to the extra costs, becoming a health hazard for the general public from unsanitary ice cream machines. Theres a domino effect here thats being completely ignored by only focusing on the McDs corporate bottom line.

Ive probably mentioned it before, but in case I havent (either on this thread, or in general) but I dont believe its the monetary value thats the primary problem here. Its the principle of the matter. Price fixing and monopolistic contracts are bad for the private sector, as well as the franchise owners and the general public. If I were a franchise owner, Id be pissed off that I wasnt given informed consent on this problem that clearly exists to benefit a few at the expense of others.

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– White_Phosphorus 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Because McDonalds has a quid pro quo with Taylor. Theres a contract document that allows Taylor to to profit and scratch corporates back,

That's mere conjecture, but maybe its possible.

Price fixing and monopolistic contracts are bad for the private sector, as well as the franchise owners and the general public

What do you propose then? Banning franchise agreements?

If I were a franchise owner, Id be pissed off that I wasn't given informed consent on this problem that clearly exists to benefit a few at the expense of others.

If you were a franchise owner you would have signed an agreement with McDonalds corporate that says you must do things their way. That's the cost of being a franchisee instead of an independent business.

Frankly I don't care that much about the woes of a Mcdonalds franchisees ice cream machine. They are adults and they signed the contract. They aren't going to starve to death because their ice cream machine breaks a lot. If its that bad they could have opened a Wendys. Kind of like you could go to a Wendys to get a frostee instead of McDonalds.

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