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based_biker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Close In Weapons System

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DeutscheWeeb 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gun them down

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x0x7 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

No NAP for the No NAPs.

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

you're insulting the NAP to put it like that, but ancaps largely don't believe in it anyway- so i'm not sure why i'm even saying this

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x0x7 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

No I'm not. The NAP is not absolute pacifism. It's the idea that you have no right to encroach on the rights of others when they have never done the same to you.

Those who do need to be lopped out of an ancap society as quickly and decisively as can be done, using whatever methods are necessary to ensure that happens. If that means a bullet to the head, as long as its not by a government, I'm cool with it.

Any gray areas should be discussed rather than escalated. Mass robbery and ruin is not a gray area.

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

hell yeah

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Assassin47 3 points ago +3 / -0

Whether you're talking about Ancapistan or the real world today, if you find your property ransacked like that and don't have much in the way of hard evidence (high-res video), there's not much you can do. In both situations you'd have to do an investigation, look for clues, interview people in the area, stake out the local gangs, and maybe pay criminals to rat each other out. The only difference in Ancapistan is you'd be hiring private investigative agencies to do all that instead of depending on tax funded police.

The enormous cost of doing all that is one reason why I think you'd always have psuedo-government agencies that everyone in a community pays a regular fee to, like insurance.

What I'm not clear on is what kind of punishment would be carried out, assuming the persons you believe did the looting rationally refuse to cooperate with any judicial agency. Maybe that's when it's time to take the law into your own hands. If a court has publicly proven that they were the criminals, nobody in the community would fault you for exacting justice.

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gunteh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Follow up question: if an ancap world looked closer to South Africa (or most of Africa, for that matter) than North America, is it still the ideal?

I think it’s really hard to look at ancap without considering the possibility that not everyone will be able to afford weapons and won’t gang up on each other Purge Style.

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Minarchist_Manlet 1 point ago +1 / -0

This question deserves a new post.

South Africa isn't anything close to ancap, but I think a lot of anarchists optimistically look forward to the Purge so those of us with weapons can start cleaning shit up.

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gunteh 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think my point is not what an ideal world would look like, it’s more about what happens if an ancap world ends up being people using brute force to get what they want.

South Africa’s looting is exactly what happens when people (who are deeply flawed) start rejecting the free market and instead decide to take what they want without thought of the repercussions down the line. It’s a perfect example because it highlights government failure to enforce laws and people taking matters into their own hands.

Other close examples are natural disasters, where some people resort to bartering, but most resort to looting (eg: New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina).

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

very large guns, traps, private security, private police, private detectives, mercenaries, and private arbitration