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No, no he got a point. (media.ancaps.win)
posted 4 years ago by IspankDaMonkee2 4 years ago by IspankDaMonkee2 +29 / -11
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– wolfsettler 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Inaccurate

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– based_biker 2 points 4 years ago +5 / -3

A lot Trump supporters are libertarians, they just don't know it yet. Granted, another half of them are absolutist scum

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– libman 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

A lot Trump supporters are libertarians, they just don't know it yet.

So help me push secession.

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Granted, another half of them are absolutist scum

No one on the right is "scum" compared to the left.

They are definitely closer to us on fiscal issues. And social conservatism can be fully compatible with NAP. If they want to ban blasphemy, pot, and abortion in their county (or ideally their private neighborhood) - fine, I'll live somewhere else.

Socialism, on the other hand, can only "work" through massive enslavement, violence, and brainwashing on a global scale. They cannot allow any intergovernmental competition, or their failure would be obvious (ex. North vs South Korea, East vs West Germany, etc, etc, etc). The left will always slide into tyranny until the whole world is a North Korea from which there's no hope of escape!

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– IspankDaMonkee2 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

You do have a point.. But there's a lot of statist in both party's sadly.

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– Royal_Krakenstein 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Well yes, I am one of those libertarians. Most Trump supporters are in it because the alternative is atrocious and of course... the memes. The unfortunate trumptard does exist and I would not be surprised if they aligned with pic related.

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– libman 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Big-L Libertarians are addicted to the idea of the two parties being absolutely positively equally bad. That was true some of the time (ex. Bush, McCain), but clearly it's not true with Trump vs Obama / Biden / Kamala.

I voted LP for most of my life, including in 2016, but Trump earned my vote in 2020 while the LP had lost it. The BLM bootlicking was absolutely disgusting.

The LP should have negotiated with Trump for endorsement. We could have actually gotten some good things out of that, like autonomous free market zones and legal seasteading.

LP has failed to accomplish anything in 2020 other than help the communists. Ron Paul alone has accomplished more by running in GOP primaries (2008 & 2012) than all the LP candidates combined!

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– Royal_Krakenstein 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Realistically speaking, perhaps the function of the LP is to steal votes from the RP to make them adopt more libertarian policy. As far as I see it, libertarianism still has a long way to go, if at all, until it becomes a mainstream ideology.

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– libman 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

The main function of the LP was supposed to be selling libertarian books, driving traffic to libertarian sites, etc. Ron Paul did that much better from GOP than the LP did. The real hope was in minority initiatives like the Free State Project, but that's been a massive disappointment...

It's nice to have some leverage over the GOP, especially in the primaries, but only to a point.

Helping commies win is a very bad thing... ?

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– Royal_Krakenstein 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Sorry for engaging in AnCap treason. I hope my thoughts did not violate the 'Non-Helping Commies Principle'. Frankly I'm just a minarchist with AnCap interests trying to see what it is all about.

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– libman 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Just remember that the two are not in conflict. Anarcho-Capitalism / NAP is the operation system and Minarchism is an app to run on top of it. People should be free to create all sorts of voluntary societies under NAP, but Minarchist ones are most likely to attract the top brains & capital, proliferate, and be most successful.

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– Royal_Krakenstein 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

As in minarchists themselves are more successful or minarchism running over the ancap model will draw more successful people towards the government? If it's the latter, I really am not seeing the best in government. Usually the successful are in the market working, right?

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– BenLurking 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The problem is that the world is far too "small" these days to truly be libertarian.

The more I thought about succession, the more I realized occupation would be the end result. We would be to America, what Taiwan is to China. Can't have decentralization when there is global communist power(s) threatening to enslave every nation....

The only way we'll seen another truly libertarian society is after whatever fallout occurs from either WW3 // socialist "utopia" // neo feudalism we're about to plunge into.

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– Royal_Krakenstein 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

You could enter the ancap model running a minarchist government over it. But there will always be opposition and groups that will you want to defend against. So a military defense will always be necessary.

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– BenLurking 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm just saying we're too late in the game for something like that.

Maybe after the next war or so but the geopolitical landscape will have to radically change for something like that to work.

Not only could they squeeze you out of the global economy, but with current military pressures you would be subjugated within a week.

Look at china's reaction to the US reaching out to Taiwan. The same thing would happen to whatever ancap nation you'd create.

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– Royal_Krakenstein 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I realise that the reason we aren't speaking some dialect of Chinese is because of our militaries and that is why I proposed a minarchist government. Also I would bet that even if we started afresh, people would immediately begin to form groups (countries) and fight eachother.

With the way how the model is now, the US would cripple itself if it was to be implemented because there is no structure - and I don't think that cooperatives of people would be as effective.

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– IspankDaMonkee2 [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Statism is a disease that inflicts both sides of the same coin.

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– BigPedeEnergy 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh wow literally what could be said about these jojo tards pretending her policies aren't neocon

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– libman 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

All political choice is between degrees of evil.

"You don't want death within months from a failing heart, you want painful transplant surgery that adds decades to your life" - FUCK YES!!!

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